Anyone have experience with collapse weaves? 

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ingamarie

Well let's just say that now and then something doesn't work out so well :) which is ok.  It's a sad little thing. It would be quite nice in something other than black (or midnight) and if it was bigger. But it looks a little like a widow's veil that got left out in the rain. But I have to remind myself that I was mostly trying to see how the material worked and it's, um, a learning experience.....

dteaj (not verified)

 

Um, Marie. I'd love to see it, even if you're not crazy about it. I agree that that's how we learn.

What came out nicely about it? Was it the texture? I promise to post something that didn't work for me in exchange. :-)

 

ingamarie

Let's see. It will make a good Halloween piece. Stay tuned...

marie

 

dteaj (not verified)

OK. As a show of good faith, here's one that didn't work for me. It is collapse, although not of unusual materials. I was fascinated by Lotte Dalgaard's use of linen in collapse, so I decided to try one. It is basically gauze windowpanes of linen singles with a wool/silk frame. It was supposed to full and have loose linen puffs.

Here's a closeup on the loom:

 

Here are the samples, mangled and fulled:

I used a couple of different yarns and was checking out ways of finishing the ends of the scarf. The all linen grid I used for the scarf is on the left, left row. As you can see, one sample came out with the puffs relatively intact, the other was much more scattered. Maybe it is the difference in the amount of fulling or mangling. I'm not sure.

 

Here's the final product:

 

As you can see, even with the fulling wool to hold down the screen, it is very flimsy and sloppy. Without the mangling, it is too stiff. With the mangling, it is too floppy. Also, the linen singles do have some twist energy and given enough room and enough softening of the fibers, will show some of it. :-(

Anyway, not my best effort. I'm thinking of trying a new version with a similar fine wool frame, but using a less partially felting interior yarn such as a fine kid mohair or a long wool yarn.

ingamarie

Not nearly as bad as mine. I"ll get a picture up soon. :)

ingamarie

OK then, here it is. I"m calling it 'Black Widow' and bringing it to my Guild's weaving horror stories program tonight :)

What I did was put it on a rigid heddle loom, but with a skipped slot/hole and then I tried to mimic that open grid in the beat. I was hard to control the selvages on the RH.

I also think either bigger or not black, or both,  would have helped... something that looked more ethereal and less funereal!

Oh well, like we say around here-- it's an  experiment, it may not work.

marie

Black Widow 1Black Widow 3Black Widow 2Black Widow 4

dteaj (not verified)

Thanks so much for posting this.

Well, I see what you mean, but it would fit a New York City sensibility pretty well. They dress a lot in black and it seems like it would be all in how you wore it. With neutrals or near neutrals and a pop of bright color, it could work pretty well.

Why is the upper right hand image so different from the others? Is that after washing or before ironing or what???

By the way, I found Lotte Dalgaard's book on the web. She has a CD with an English translation to go with the book. I've ordered them from Lotte and they are on their way to me right now. I am very excited!

ingamarie

Yea with the right thing it would be ok, but most things are like that aren't they.  Also if it was bigger.  But I have to remind myslef that I was mostly curious how the material worked, not so concerned about what it would be.

All my images area lined up in a vertical row, but you're probably referring to the second one. That's just scrumpled up in a wad.  Since it's steel it will keep whatever shape you give it. And that's actually pretty cool.

Glad you found Lotte's book. I guess I'll keep slogging along with the Danish. Good exercise!

marie

crosstownshuttler (not verified)

Hi Debbie,

I just joined this group and I'm very glad I found it. I'm organizing a Yarn Tasting for my weaving guild in March so members can try out lots of new fibers without having to spend a lot of money before we find some we really like - horsehair, wool/stainless, over-twist yarn, etc.  I will put this link in the handouts.

Thank you for posting your project. I like the idea. I wonder if it might have held together better if the squares were smaller?

I'm also the guild librarian. We have Anne Field's book and I'm interested in Lotte Dalgaard's book with english translation but I can't find it on the internet. Could you post a link please?

TIA,

Carie

ingamarie

HI,

Thanks for the feedback, I just came back this weekend from a Collapse Weave workshop our guild had. It was hugely fun, and I"ll post pictures as soon as I get it done. Giovanna Imperia taught it and she has the Dalgaard book (which is fabulous). She has an ad in the marketplace of Weavolution, check there for the link (and help Wlution out a little to :)  )  That link is http://www.weavolution.com/marketplace

And thanks for the yarn tasting idea.. we may have to do that :)

marie

 

 

dteaj (not verified)

In terms of the project, I've since sampled with the linen sett and woven more closely and that works better.

Giovanna Imperia mentioned in a yahoo post recently that she has some copies of the Dalgaard book. Her contact is

Email: [email protected][email protected]

Phone:

832-455-4269

 

In case she doesn't have any left, you can order directly from Lotte via email using Paypal. That's how I ordered it.

[email protected]

Good luck. This stuff is so much fun!

dteaj (not verified)

In terms of the project, I've since sampled with the linen sett and woven more closely and that works better.

Giovanna Imperia mentioned in a yahoo post recently that she has some copies of the Dalgaard book. Her contact is

Email: [email protected][email protected]

Phone:

832-455-4269

 

In case she doesn't have any left, you can order directly from Lotte via email using Paypal. That's how I ordered it.

[email protected]

Good luck. This stuff is so much fun!

dteaj (not verified)

Oh, I just notice you posted this. Great idea to send her through Weavolution to get to Giovanna.

Oooh! I am so jealous!  What did Giovanna cover?

ingamarie

We warped inch wide sections of linen with half inch sections of active yarn in between and then played with different active yarns. It's still on the loom, but looks like there are some cool effects in there.  I'll post in the next few days.

 

ingamarie

Hey there-- I'm looking to try some of Lotte Dalgaards ideas-- she uses 17,000 m/kg linen singles in her work. Any idea where to get that in colors in the US-- Bockens has 28/1 which is roughly the same but not in colors.   Any ideas?

 

dteaj (not verified)

I've been looking, but haven't found any sources. I'm using natural colors for now and waiting for my dye space to thaw out this spring. :-)

Habu's 100/1 linen is to die for, by the way.  I've been using it as weft with undegummed organzine as a warp, along with some other fine yarns.  I'll try to post a picture of the sample in the next few days.