A weaver-friend asked me what to call this, and I figured it would be best to consult this group.

She is using a combination of yarns as a thick weft for a decorative edging. She sent a photo and it makes a lovely edge treatment. She has a ribbon (the kind you would use for weft or for knitting) and a metallic yarn and some rayon and some cotton in a nice selection of colors and textures. I think these yarns were wound on a small stick shuttle. She speaks English very well but was unsure what term to use for this. I have combined yarns for various special effects, so I thought about it. Her question to me is this: "When you have strands of yarns, ribbons and metallic threads and you combine them into one thick yarn what would you call that. Can you call it a strand or a bundle?"  Here's what I wrote back to her:

I tell people that I have used such-and-such yarns "wound together" (if they are used on a pirn or a bobbin, fine enough yarns to wind this way) or "bundled together" if they are used on a stick shuttle or a butterfly. I think the critical distinction is that I did not spin the various yarns together to make a new yarn and introduce twist. The effect would be different if the yarns had been twisted together. This would also be nice for your decorative edging, now that I think about it, but it would look different. Plying various yarns together is also a possibility. We have terms for those things, spinning and plying.

I suppose it matters that I have only described these things to other weavers. They ask what color was my weft, and I respond that I wound three fine yarns together: a red silk, an orange silk, and a rust-colored rayon. A non-weaver might only need to know that the weft was silk and rayon, perhaps?

What would you have written? Do you use another term for a weft with combined yarns?

Bonnie

 

 

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tien (not verified)

I call them "stranded yarns" or "stranded weft", followed immediately by a description of what strands were in the bundle.  Not sure there's a generally accepted term, though - that's just the one I use!

Broderie (not verified)

Bonnie, I am a relatively new weaver, but I think I would refer to it as 'multi' weft, or multi-wefts. That might help. Christine

Broderie (not verified)

Bonnie An addendum: you could call them combo; or combi-wefts.....

Bonnie Inouye (not verified)

I was wondering what has been used in weaving books and magazines, not just what names we could make up for this. I am in my summer cabin and don't have many books with me. I don't recall seeing "stranded" used in this way. People get stranded when they miss the boat, but strands of yarn are individual strands, no? Multi-weft indicates that you used a bunch of different yarns in the weft, not just one weft yarn, but it is very general and would include a cloth with an inch of blue weft, then an inch of red, and inch of yellow, etc. Lots of bobbins. Multi just means "many".

Maybe we don't do this very often- several different yarns together as one- and therefore don't have one word that clearly indicates this. The example in the photo includes a ribbon and some thick yarn with some very fine yarns to make quite a thick bundle. One time when I had an order for a wall hanging, I needed a very thick pink yarn but I am not that fond of pink and seldom use thick yarns. The structure was warp rep which alternates a very thick weft with a thin weft. I lined up cones of everything near pink that I had in the studio and tested different groups of those cones to get something that worked as a thick weft and showed nicely along the edges of the piece. The customer loved it. The warp was hand dyed and included pinks and oranges and soft yellow in one layer of warp and I used the colors in the thick part to highlight the pinks. do you think I could describe this as having one stranded weft and one thin, or one multi-weft and one thin? Would people know what it meant?

Bonnie

laurafry

I use bundled, myself, but I don't know if there is a 'proper' term.

cheers,

Laura

Claudia Segal (not verified)

Bonnie, This type of yarn is common in knitting and is referred to as stranded but I'm not sure the same applies when using it as weft. The warp rep piece you describe sounds as though you used each yarn separately not bundled together as your friend described. I have spent over 50 years knitting and have worked with stranded yarns in the past 6 or 7 years. It's a great way to put a group of yarns together. Claudia

Bonnie Inouye (not verified)

Claudia, thanks- I have only done a little basic knitting in the last 20 years or so. I did combine two strands of handspun to knit a vest in the 1980s but did not have a name for it. Thanks. I had not heard or read that term applied to yarns.

When weaving warp rep, there is always one very thick weft alternating with one thin weft. I used about 8 or 10 threads together for the very thick weft, alternating with a single yarn for the thin weft. I think it is fairly common to combine yarns to form a thick enough weft for warp rep and they are definitely combined as one weft- just alternated thick, thin, thick, thin.

Bonnie

kerstinfroberg

Well, we Swedes do this very often! Use ... bundled, stranded... yarns, that is.

Most Swe yarn sellers sell some sort of bundled yarn, often in several thicknesses. (See for instance Borgs.) Some used to call them "string yarn", which is a not-good translation of the Swedish "sträng-garn" - but I notice Borgs now just call them "weft for rugs". (They also sell "rugyarn", which is a thick singles wool yarn.) Ås vävgarner still use string yarn - for "rope" weaves (it says rep in Swe)

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