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emhoog (not verified)

Good luck and ... please keep us posted

bolivian warmi

This will be fun to follow through its stages. Would we be able to see what it looks like before it is spun, please? (to start at the very beginning!)

B P (not verified)

Well Ruth, so far I'm well impressed with your hand spun linen.....(wish I could spin like that!)

....And following on from the request to see the linen fibre, could we please see a picture of the commercial voile fabric that you are weaving the complementary band for?

Beth

B P (not verified)

Ruth, So nice to meet the 'Family'!!

When I saw the pic of your beautiful waterpot in the family photo I thought - I must ask about that pot; it looks so interesting and I've never seen one before. So, I for one definitely appreciate background info.

Thanks also for the pic of your fabric, very nice as well!

Beth

 

 

bolivian warmi

Thanks for the photo update and for the walk down memory lane for me with your story of the "grolle". I spent many a happy evening in Val d' Isere in the Haute Savoie passing the grolle during the 5 winters I spent up there.

ruthmacgregor (not verified)

You spent 5 winters in Val d'Isère, Laverne??  Oh, my.  Small world. :-)

If you want to pop over and spin some flax, I'll pass you my grolle.  (Actually, I have another grolle as well, with 6 spouts -- so we could spin *and* pass "la coupe de l'amitié" properly!)

With last night's spinning, I've nearly reached the limits of what this spindle will hold without misbehaving.  The linen yarn doesn't pack itself down as much as wool or silk do, so I'm guessing there are about 150 yards of singles yarn on it.  One nice thing about weaving bands is that you don't need huge amounts of yarn -- so I think I may be able to start weaving in just one more spindle's worth of linen.  I'm ready!

Ruth

B P (not verified)

Nice to see some more pics Ruth.....your linen yarn looks fab! I'm looking forward to see how the weaving progresses.

Beth

marlenedg (not verified)

This is very interesting. I have sewn with a lot of linen. It is my favorite fabric to work with but I have never seen it spun and turned into the cloth. Very innformative. Thanks. When you say singles, and I am Not a spinner, I am guessing you are refering to the first spin before you spin/twist it with another fibar to ply it?

 Anyway thanks for posting this.

Marlene

ruthmacgregor (not verified)

Thanks for the yarn comment, Beth!  The "frizziness" of the yarn after handling disappoints me because it was so lovely and smooth on the spindle (and I'd hoped it would stay that way) -- but it is fairly even, and it's mostly viable.  The problems I've had with it aren't so much in the joins, but it places where the short fibres have been abraded enough to cause the yarn to drift apart.  That could happen with any singles, but I think it's more pronounced here because the fibre I started with was so brittle.  ...I'll be spinning more for weft as I go along, so you can expect another view of that spindle. ;-)

Marlene, that's a good question.  A "singles" yarn is simply a one-ply yarn.  I don't know how frequently weavers use that term, but it's well-used among spinners.  You can use a singles yarn as-is, or you can ply it with one or more other yarns to bulk it up, or to bolster its weak spots, or to mix colours or fibres, or to give zip to a yarn that's otherwise lacklustre.

Not all yarns behave well used as singles.  Because the yarn is single-ply, it has quite a bit of "live" twist in it -- which means it might be squirrely to handle (curling and kinking), or it might impart "tracking" to the fabric (a permanent effect caused by unbalanced twist in the yarns -- you won't see it on the loom, but it shows up in the wash).  The other big danger with a single-ply yarn is that it can be more vulnerable to abrasion, and any less-than-optimal spots in the yarn can make their presence known in a rather unpleasant way (usually by breaking).

Linen usually behaves pretty well as a singles.  It's a calm fibre.

Except for the frizziness, I'm enjoying this project.  The band is just under 6 inches wide, and even with the frizzes, the weft slips smoothly into place.  I think it's going to feel quite nice when it gets off the loom.

Ruth

ruthmacgregor (not verified)

Ask and ye shall receive. ;-)  More photos appear above.

My favourite way of spinning flax is from a distaff, using "line" flax (the long-fibre stuff that looks like beautiful hair) -- but this is a good use of the roving.  I'm spinning it with more twist than I'd use with line flax, which means the yarn has less sheen; but you can tell from seeing it on the spindle that it will let something textural like leno really show itself off, whether the yarn itself gleams or not.  ...The main fibres in this roving are between 4 and 6 inches long, but there are "patches" of shorter fibres, often less than an inch in length.

My water pot, by the way (since I'm documenting!), is a traditional hand-carved item from the Savoie region of France.  It's called a "grolle", but it's also known as the "cup of friendship".  The tradition is that when friends gather (an event that usually also involves eating something wonderful), after the food is done, you fill the "grolle" with a mixture of coffee, a strong local alcohol, and sugar -- and you pass it around.  The "grolle" has spouts carved into it (mine has just two spouts, but I've seen them with as many as ten), and when it comes to you, you drink out of the next spout in line, then pass the grolle to your neighbour.  The grolle is supposed to keep working its way around the table (without being set down) until it's empty.

It also makes a great water pot! ;-)  Inside the grolle, I've placed a natural sponge inside a little plastic sleeve (it seemed unkind to ask unprotected wood to hold water for days on end).  The sponge is saturated -- and it makes it easy to moisten my yarn-smoothing fingers without making a big puddle on the table!

(Oops.  Was that more than you wanted to know??)

Ruth

B P (not verified)

Ruth, can't wait to see how this leno band looks next to your linen fabric...it's always so exciting to see colours and textures in a synergistic union!

Beth

B P (not verified)

Rachel, thanks for the update (I was wondering how this band was coming along!)

I really like the combination of the different patterns...especially the offset Brook's Bouquet.

Beth

ruthmacgregor (not verified)

It's coming!  Just slow. ;-)

The weather turned suddenly warm and steamy yesterday, and as a result I've been weaving more than usual (the little loom with this band on it is right in line with the fan!).  Now that I've figured out how to accommodate my patterns with appropriate warp tensions, it's going along very nicely.

Now, to choose what kind of jacket to make....  I want it to be light and airy, but I'm hesitating between two different jacket styles.

Ruth

Artistry

I love your Leno and other finger manipulated weaves , plus the linen! I am not a spinner however love linen and have found the discussion of your work fascinating. I hope we'll get to see the final project, the lace will be stunning!

Artistry

Whoops wrong term , not lace, but your band will be stunning!

JacQueline Keller

I can't wait to try spinning some linen!  Your entry made me wish I had some RIGHT now to try!  Thanks for the tip about the water pot and spoinge.  I will remember it. 

I have never heard fo Leno before but I really like it!  What a good idea to spin and weave a bit for trim for a final touch!

Right now I am spinning cotton for the first time.  The staple length is soooo short! 

Thanks for sharing

B P (not verified)

Wow, so very, very beautiful! The design of your band packs a mighty punch for plain unbleached flax.

(I'd be real tempted to leave it by the window, and just enjoy the sunlight through the negative shapes!)

Beth

Looming

Ruth, I am in awe of your skill and patience. The linen band is gorgeous!

Artistry

Thanks for this journey. Really lovely!

Neshobe (not verified)

I stumbled across a link to an article on your blog last night, immediately bookmarked it, and this morning am spending what I consider well-used time to explore it.  Your post about this project brought me (surprise) back to Weavolution to see the pics-- and that is when I learned that the blog is yours!  Thank you for sharing what you do in such detail (and with such interesting asides).  I've been planning a weaving project in linen, but hadn't thought about spinning it. Now I shall (though maybe using line!).  Your use of a small rigid heddle loom is encouraging me to go ahead: not only for samples, but for unique weavings like this.  I am looking forward to seeing the jacket emerge, though I confess I love the look of that piece just hanging, with light shining through!

 

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This project is documented from its very beginning, when the yarn is still mostly fibre!

The weather has turned hot and humid, and I've been thinking of lightweight linen.  Spinning flax is a great warm-weather activity.  The fibre isn't cling-y, and the yarn is smoothest when it's "wet-spun"; so if you're using a spindle, you get to spin standing up (maximum airflow on all sides), and you get to splash around a bit in water -- win-win!  So last night as I dabbled my fingers on the moist sponge, getting ready to dampen the thread, I admired the texture of the cop building up on the spindle shaft... and the evening breeze whispered, "Leno."

I have some very nice natural-coloured linen "voile" (a commercial fabric, very lightweight) that will make an excellent sweltery-weather top or jacket -- but I haven't done anything with it because it needed some kind of trim, or structure, or design element to give it interest.  A leno band woven from handspun linen singles would be just the ticket!

Stay tuned.  This isn't a project that will be woven and finished in a day. ;-)

 

26 July 2011 -- Last week I wound the linen singles off the spindle (264 yards!  I'd thought it would be just 150 or so!), then thought about what I wanted to do in terms of warp dressing.  Being spun from flax roving instead of nice, long line flax, I worried that the warp yarns would fray and fuzz with handling and hoped a warp dressing would keep that bad behaviour to a minimum.  I finally decided to pre-soak the warp in a dressing made from flax seeds, and did so:  after the threads were fully saturated with dressing, I squeezed out the excess and hung the skein to dry.

The dressed yarn was still fairly smooth, but very stiff!  The stiffness went away as I re-skeined the yarn and warped the loom yesterday.  But... this singles yarn fuzzes and frays with handling, just as I'd feared.  The problem is in the original fibre rather than in the yarn itself:  the fibres in flax roving are short and brittle.  Even with plenty of twist, the yarn is more fragile than, say, a similar singles spun from something cooperative like silk, or a singles spun from flax line. In the new photo above showing the view from the back of the loom, you can clearly see the fuzzing (and a knot in one of the warp threads!).  It's not totally unexpected, but it's disappointing.

In the future, I'll reserve yarns spun from this roving for use in the weft -- and when I want a linen singles for warp, it will be spun from line!

But for now -- the leno looks nice. :-)  I'm weaving slowly, keeping the sheds very small and beating by pressing wefts into place with a smooth beveled stick.  It's actually pleasant weaving.  It's just not the *smooth* pleasantness I'd imagined.

 

20 August 2011 -- Still weaving!  Between the last post and this one, I ran out of weft, spun up another spindle-ful, used it -- then spun a bobbin-ful on the spinning wheel (the yarns match, and I'm now focussed on the weaving, so why not?).

The pattern has evolved.  In the first few inches of warp, I experimented with various forms of leno (there's a wealth of ways to cross those threads!); but patterns that pull the warps far from their original paths also put strain on the yarns.  I had more warp repairs in that first section than I care to admit!  So... the patterning has now settled into a regular repeat that I like very much:  a pretty little section of regularly spaced leno, a band of weft-faced plainweave, a pretty little section of Brook's Bouquet (offset to get that nice weft deflection between rows), then another band of weft-faced plainweave.  I think the band will look very nice when it's done.

My original vision featured smooth yarns, not fuzzy ones -- but as I go along, I'm becoming fond of the yarn texture.  It doesn't detract from the structure, and it adds a quirky informality that suits me better than a completely elegant lace.

While weaving I've learned something very important:  low warp tension is essential for warp-deflecting manipulations like the ones used in the Brook's bouquet, especially if the warp threads are fragile.  I'm actually weaving at three different tensions in this band -- one for the Bouquets, one for the leno, and a third for the plainweave.  I'm keeping the sheds small, separating the warp layers by barely more than a centimeter, just enough to pass the stick shuttle.  To minimize abrasion, I "beat" with the beveled edge of my pickup stick.  It works:  my warps break infrequently now.  Without having to stop as often for warp repairs, the weaving is a joy that I look forward to.

And so we weave on. :-)

 

23 October 2011 -- It's finished!!  When I cut it off the loom and unrolled it from the cloth beam, it took my breath away.  First, it was much more consistent than I'd imagined (when you see only a small section at a time, you tend to focus on what are actually tiny details).  Second, it was much longer than I'd thought:  almost 3 meters long!  That's plenty to take care of any jacket I might want to trim, and maybe a skirt as well...

All the time I've been weaving, I've been thinking about the way I want to use this band.  I'd originally thought to use it as trim on lightweight linen cloth -- but now I think it would be nicer as an insert, so the light could play through it (and the breeze could pass through as well).  The weather has turned autumnal, so I have the entire dark season to think about next year's warm-weather jacket.  But I'm pleased with the way this summer project worked out!

Happy weaver.

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