I am a new weaver.  I have read in varoius books that I should get familiar with both styles of dressing the loom; back to front and front to back.  I learned front to back.  I have attemped back to front once but found it awkward.  The Deb Chandler video " 4 harness weaving " mentions a warping aid to assist with back to front .  It is a frame that holds the lease sticks in place I imagine , maintianing the distance between the two. and keeping the lease sticks in place.  I have looked online so far for this device but I am not really sure what it would be called.  I have had little to no luck searching" warping aid" or "back to front warping aid".  If someone knows where I might find this device please help.  I would like to be versed in both techniques.  Thank you.  

Comments

Tue, 03/03/2015 - 16:21

laurafry

Probably find more with 'lease stick holders' Cheers Laura
Tue, 03/03/2015 - 16:33

pammersw

I just tie my lease sticks to the castle while I'm winding on the warp. Total Cost: about 1 yard of cotton string (reusable). Then the cross is readily available as I'm threading the heddles.

Tue, 03/03/2015 - 17:08

Sara von Tresckow

I also use scrap yarn to hang the lease sticks where they are most effective at the stage of warping being pursued.

Try "Big Book of Weaving" or other weaving books for warping method - the Chandler is notoriously "incomplete" and for beginners not the most effective.

Tue, 03/03/2015 - 18:23

sarahnopp (not verified)

If you google "lease sticks on back of loom" and look in images, you will get lots of ideas. I personally just use scrap yarn and tie the sticks in the position I want. Two pieces of yarn to each side of the set of sticks and I am working.

Tue, 03/03/2015 - 19:18

Erica J

I also recently found the Ashford warping video, where they use thier Ashford Helping Hands to hold the lease sticks while warping back to front. The Helping Hands come with their raddle, I already own a raddle which works on my 2 Ashford table looms. I went to a local shop and bought 2 meters of elastic, which seemed to work equally well as their elastic cord.

Tue, 03/03/2015 - 20:14

ShawnC

I just use string/yarn, too. I think what you're referring to are called "angel wings". Maybe a Purrington loom product?

Wed, 03/04/2015 - 02:28

CelticCats

I had extra Texsolv cord and use them to attach the lease sticks to the sides of the loom, works perfect.

 

=^.^=

Wed, 03/04/2015 - 05:09

Queezle

I am really committed to becoming a back-to-front warper (after spending 10+ yrs warping front to back, Chandler book self taught), and have used several ways to tie on my lease sticks.  I am still not satisfied, but will do the google search suggested above.  I find that I can never quite get the lease sticks into a position that feels right, but I assume if I can just keep working on it, I will get there. 

Wed, 03/04/2015 - 07:24

CelticCats

Try this link. http://www.purringtonlooms.com/accessories.htm And scroll down the page and see if what you are looking for are angel wings. =^.^=
Wed, 03/04/2015 - 10:32

ReedGuy

Sometimes I think it depends on the loom construction as to having convenient points to secure your lease sticks. Mine mostly stay at the back beams and up above the top beam suspended from the cross beam. I secure them a little different at each stage of warping and weaving. For me, cord is the most versatile method of securing lease sticks or raddles because it's not constraining yourself to one spot which does not always work for each stage.

Wed, 03/04/2015 - 13:02

endorph

use string or in a pinch I have used pipe cleaners

Wed, 03/04/2015 - 13:30

Dena (not verified)

While I agree that it's a great idea to learn both methods, I believe that at the beginning, there's enough to get used to that it's a good idea to stick with one method until you are REALLY comfortable with it.  It takes time for our bodies to be able to do something well.  My recommendation is choose a method and do at least 5-10 warps using that method before trying anything different.

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 21:37

judi5740

My back to front has been facilitated by my raddle which I hang from the upper side pieces of my loom.  (I have a scandinavian style loom).

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 01:46

bjr1957

As soon as my refurbished loom has all it's parts I will be warping back to front.  The very best resource I have is a DVD by Peggy Ostercamp called WARPING THE LOOM BACK TO FRONT.  It is so comprehensive and easy to understand that you will wonder what you were worried about.  I have that DVD and I recommend it without reservation.

The other resource I have seen online is the back to front video by WEBS fouder and resident weaver Barbara Elkins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icw_E0rHYBw

This was the first video I saw when I wanted to understand the basic procedure. 

Hope that helps

Barb R.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 01:53

bjr1957

As soon as my refurbished loom has all it's parts I will be warping back to front.  The very best resource I have is a DVD by Peggy Ostercamp called WARPING THE LOOM BACK TO FRONT.  It is so comprehensive and easy to understand that you will wonder what you were worried about.  I have that DVD and I recommend it without reservation.

The other resource I have seen online is the back to front video by WEBS fouder and resident weaver Barbara Elkins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icw_E0rHYBw

This was the first video I saw when I wanted to understand the basic procedure. I have watched both methods of warping back to front and like Peggy's method better but that is a personal preference.  Watch Mrs. Elkins and then get the Osterkamp video and judge for yourself.

Hope that helps

Barb R.

Thu, 03/12/2015 - 23:40

Ludmilla (not verified)

There are a couple of tools I recommend when warpimg back to front.

One is the Purrington Angel Wings that you already have the link to. They are great for holding the lease sticks.

The other is the autodenter or auto reed hook. Here is the link to one:

http://www.woolery.com/Store/pc/Schacht-Auto-Reed-Hook-p1152.htm#.VQIjvYd0x9M

They speed up the process and greatly reduce the incidence of skipped or repeated dents.

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 00:33

mrdubyah (not verified)

I'll second the recommendation to check out Angell Wings.  These little gadgets attach your lease sticks to the front or back beam so they will stay in place during warping without any strings at all. 

http://www.purringtonlooms.com/Angel_Wings.htm

Sun, 03/22/2015 - 12:05

Andrew Kieran (not verified)

I beam directly to the beam through a raddle,  without lease sticks.  Whether on a shallow or deep loom I've never found them necessary.  I work with wool a lot and I reckon the yarn would hank up in the cross.  I always keep one in when weaving though,  in order to find broken ends easily. 

Sun, 03/22/2015 - 19:59

Sara von Tresckow

Andrew, probably works - though if I mount the raddle several inches ahead of the lease sticks and use beveled Swedish ones, I seldom have problems with sticky warps - just wound on 10 yards of wool for blankets and kept on cranking.