Tien was part of the last year's Munsell/dye study group, in fact you can blame her for all of this. She asked me what I meant when I wrote that the Munsell system was helpfull to dyers. Anyhow she completed all the tasks last Oct. and her expanded knowledge of color is very much a part of her design process. You can see this on her blog right now, look at the 5 May entry. You should look for her recently dyed jacket, Kodachrome, too. I tease her that I need sunglasses to view it. She'd probably wear it for a job interview.