Authentic way of weaving Rosepath

Now this must really be a beginner question. Here is the harness pattern: 1-2,  2-3,  3-4  ,3-4,  2-3,  1-2,  1-4,  1-4  repeat.    So, what holds the weft in the warp if you repeat a shed as in 3-4,  3-4  or  1-4,  1-4?  Is the answer, nothing?  

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Thu, 08/22/2013 - 16:47

laurafry

I suspect it is an additional tabby pick.  Does the draft say anywhere on it to 'use tabby'?

cheers,

Laura

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 16:48

Sara von Tresckow

That isn't rosepath.

Rosepath as you describe would be 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, 1-4, 1-2, 1-4,3-4, 2-3, 1-2 - and here you have a choice of continuing 2-3 and up or doing 1-4 followed by 1-2.

If you are talking about a threading or treadling sequence with numbers -

1-2-3-4-1-4-3-2-1-2-3-4-1-4-3-2

or

1-2-3-4-1-4-3-2-1-4-1-2-3-4-1-4-3-2

True rosepath has no doubled picks or threads.

Fri, 08/23/2013 - 04:52

Jan Bogue

Authentic way of weaving Rosepath

1-2-3-4-1-4-3-2-1-2-3-4-1-4-3-2 Yes, this is my threading pattern. Now I will try your sequence of harnesses. 

 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, 1-4, 1-2, 1-4,3-4, 2-3, 1-2 -

Thanks for the help. 

Fri, 08/23/2013 - 04:56

Jan Bogue

 Does the draft say anywhere on it to 'use tabby'?

No, I don't see anything about tabby.  But I will look again. 

Thanks for your help. 

Fri, 08/23/2013 - 07:48

kerstinfroberg

Sara, I beg to differ.

In Sweden, rosepath is (was) considered an "art weave" (as opposed to "useable fabric" like sturdy structures for towels and such, I suppose). See for instance Manual of Swedish handweaving - at least the Swedish second edition.

In this incarnation it is woven with tabby, and a different pattern yarn, where the idea is that one can make longer motifs.

rosepath example

(In Sweden we distinguish between "loose rosepath" as above, and "bound rosepath", which I believe you usually call "boundweave", which is a totally different idea)

Fri, 08/23/2013 - 08:48

ReedGuy

'Big Book of Weaving' uses bound rosepath on pages 122-123 with rep and rosepath wefts, the treadle tie up is just a / across all 4 treadles that go down. The rest of the shafts go up on each treadle. I think tie-up is different on countermarche, than counterbalance.

Tue, 09/10/2013 - 18:10

Jan Bogue

I think this is my third Google search for places to buy weaving yarn in Southern California.  As before I was able to find hundreds of "shops" and "nooks," but has anyone found a Weaving Yarn Warehouse?  I would drive some distance to be able to walk around with a shopping cart and pull off the shelf one pound cones of this and that.  Is online the only place to shop for yarn? I own a copy of Yarn Store in a Box from back east. This is great, but it would be fun to go to a Weaving Yarn grocery store in Southern California. :)  

Thu, 09/12/2013 - 21:21

ReedGuy

I can when it comes to some wool weights as we have a mill and a local retailer. Walmart here isn't much good, just small qualities of cotton and a whole isle dedicated to just acrylic. It's very difficult to get enough cotton to do anything beyond dish towels. And their restocking is very unreliable. It could be next week or 8 weeks from now before yarn is replaced. I can go to a store in Maine not far away for 10/2 merc cotton, but no color selection. It comes down to costs. Are you going to run all over creation to find what you want or just go online and get the yarn and be done with it? There aren't that many weavers truth be told. Even when I do wood working I order my stuff from Lee Valley and get good well made tools from reputable companies, excellent sand paper and screws far cheaper and far superior than can be bought locally.

Fri, 09/13/2013 - 01:39

jander14indoor (not verified)

Can't speak for California, but here in Michigan there are a couple of places I can walk into and find a good selection.  Forma in Ann Arbor, Heritage in Lake Orion, Great Northern in Kalamazoo.  Am I just lucky in where I live?

And my kids live in Rhode Island now, not too out of the way to go to Webs in MA or Halcyon in ME when I visit them. 

But on-line (can't speak for stock on hand) Village Spinning & Weaving in Solvang, CA has often had what I needed.  Looking at Mapquest, I'm not sure if that is considered Southern CA, but it isn't crazy far North of LA for special trip.

Jeff Anderson

Livonia, MI

Fri, 09/13/2013 - 09:39

ReedGuy

Population density has a lot to do with it. I live in NB and there are more living in rural communities than in cities. And the cities are really just big towns compared to the US.

We have a yarn store here, but it's not much bigger than a farm house kitchen (no kidding) and I've been there 4 or five times during posted hours and no one around. Can't sell much with the doors locked. Around these parts your forced to go online.