Without giving much thought to which loom I was using, I have warped a waffle weave towel on my LeClerc Counter balance loom.  The loom is warped and the colors look amazing, I can't wait to see how they come together.  I have come to realize that when I wove these towels before I used a Baby Wolf not a counterbalance.  Is there a way possible to get the treadlings I need  (234 and 134)?  I feel so stupid for not thinking about this.  I don't want to pull the warp and move to another loom, time is not my friend right now.  My other choice is to come up with a treadling pattern that will work with threading 43212123 and repeat.  I normally link to hunker down and figure things out, but right now my schedule is so packed I just don't have time or brain power to think too hard on this.  Any thoughts?

Comments

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 04:55

laurafry

You could weave them in a 2:2 twill using the same treadling as the threading. They won't shrink as much as waffle weave , but they would still look nice, I think. Otoh, if you have enough tie up cords, you could give it a try. You might need a low profile shuttle, though. Cheers Laura
Thu, 11/14/2013 - 05:18

loomyladi (not verified)

I'm hoping that sleeping on it will give me inspiration.  Tomorrow is another day and we'll see what a good nights sleep will do for the brain.  BTW, I'm hoping to sign up for your class in Jan at John C Campbell.  I love the school and the weaving studio is so comfortable!

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 08:38

kerstinfroberg

I posted pics of the sheds of my "compromize" CB loom here. As you can see, it is quite possible... try it first.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 08:52

ReedGuy

Need at least 5 treadles for waffle but min 4 shafts, 6 or 8 shafts/treadles is better to give more effect. With only 4 treadles with 4 shafts, the warp effect is not going to be ballanced with the weft effect

With 5 treadles the tie-up is

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Treadling same

 

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 18:01

Joanne Hall

I have successfully woven many warps with 3/1 sheds on the very same loom you have, Leclerc Fanny.  I wove a double weave tube for a bag once, as a demonstration on the 27 in Fanny and I wove faster than the others who were weaving simple things on jack looms.  And I did not have one skipped thread.

Joanne

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 20:28

loomyladi (not verified)

Reed Guy I have 6 treadles so I'm good to go.  I will have a go at it later this evening. 
Thu, 11/14/2013 - 22:45

Peg.Cherre (not verified)

My go-to loom is my little 4H counterbalance.  I have woven many dozen lace weaves on it, most requiring 3 harnesses against 1, with no trouble.  I will say that my loom much prefers that the 3 go down and 1 up as opposed to the other way around.  I generally tie up as for a jack loom and just weave the pattern "upside down." 

All that said, I haven't done any waffle weave yet, on that or my 8H Macomber.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 22:26

loomyladi (not verified)

I haven't tied up and tried it yet, I was gone. Tonight is the night! I'm looking forward to getting these towels done.

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 14:17

loomyladi (not verified)

When I sat down to tie up this am I realized I should have had a V8!  Duhhhh....  Thanks for all the help.  Towels are weaving up beautifully.

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 18:06

loomyladi (not verified)

It's weaving fairly quickly.   

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 04:56

jessiesurber

Pretty! So glad it worked for you. I have been wondering about unbalanced weaves since I just got the same loom.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:08

loomyladi (not verified)

The shed suffers on the 3/1, but otherwise it has worked well. I cut the first towel off today as I need to get it in the mail to "pay"for the warp. After my move I think I will do some more waffle towels, but on my Purrington.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 09:21

ReedGuy

If the shed is nice and uniform across the width, it may not matter so much as long as the shuttle can pass. Probably advancing more, but that eleviates wear at the selveges to. Then to, some shuttles have a taller profile than others.

For decades there was a textile business near here, full of Leclerc looms weaving all kinds of different cloth. There is an online museum with old photos inside with the looms and the folks weaving and loading bobbins and quills for shuttles. :)