Adding more width to Undulating Twill Point 2/2 after beaming

I now have my loom dressed and have begun sampling. Adding 1 more thread to the left side in shaft 4 worked perfectly - thanks to everyone who helped wiht that. This is a 6x repeat of 38 threads, for 228, plus the one extra, for 229. Unfortunately I have decided that this width will be too narrow for placemats after shrinkage, so I would like to add 1 more repeat of the pattern (I think?), on the right, since the pattern is already balanced on the left. (sett 16, 2 per dent in 8 dent reed). It's centered now ---------if I simply add 38 more to the right side (about 2+ inches), will it be a huge deal to be off center by 2 inches? I know it would be more correct to figure out how to continue the pattern for an inch or so on each side, but I'm not sure I'm confident enough to do that yet. Also --- is there any reason I cannot advance the warp at this point so that most of it is on the front beam, tie on my extra at the back, thread through reed only, and rebeam...then take out of reed, thread heddles, back in reed, and tie on at front with same tension? I realize I would have to unweave what I have already done in order to get good tension with the new threads being tied on. Thanks for any suggestions. I could continue, and just make small placemats, but I think I would be happier with them a bit wider.

Cindy

 

 

Comments

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 18:34

Erica J

Your result looks beautiful so far. Visually I see why you want to just add to one side. I'm not sure being off center in the reed is such a big deal. However, depending on your loom having more heddles threaded on one side of your shafts may cause your shafts to be lop sided. I thnk this is misty an issue if you have metal heddles, I hope someone who has tried this will chime in and let us know. You could also download a trial of weaving software to try to help you balance the draft with the new number of threads. I highly recommend weaving software for playing with drafts and "virtual" sampling. Cheers, Erica
Sat, 05/11/2013 - 18:52

ReedGuy

Being there in front of your loom to see how everything is setup would be much easier than typing a solution to the situation when there are many unknowns. It's not really complicated, it's just that seeing it gets a more direct answer and no guess work behind assumptions. I could type here all day and get you nowhere. ;)

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 21:26

clgy (not verified)

Hi Erica - Thanks for your reply. I do have metal heddles, and usually try to balance things out on both sides, but I might take a chance. This is only 38 threads, and I have *approximately* the same amount of heddles on each side, but I have counted them out perfectly. Thanks also for the suggestions regarding the weaving software! I've learned so much during the last year and a half but I still have so many questions. Right now, I really want to concentrate on learning how to design something on my own, fully understanding the relationships between the threading, treadling, tie ups, etc..but I'm not completely there yet! The software would be a great place to start. 

Cindy

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 21:26

clgy (not verified)

So true - but this is the next best thing to having a weaving guru here with me!

 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 00:00

sally orgren

I am probably one the most qualified persons doing whacky things with warps, once the loom is threaded...

Never say never...

Sally

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 03:19

clgy (not verified)

Thanks to everyone for their willingness to help. It has taken me most of the day, but I'm much happier now; the width is about 16 on the loom, and 15.5 after draw in. I think shrinkage will take it right down to 13 or 14 which will be fine. I'm going to try for a 20 inch length plus hems, with a target finished length of 18. It's worth it to get everything just the way it should be before beginning to weave! I ripped out the other, so that I could do a proper job of tying on once again. But now, I'm back in business. :) Here's a sneak preview. Thanks again! 

Cindy

 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 19:38

laurafry

Good job! Welcome to the wonderfully challenging, endlessly fascinating world of weaving! Cheers Laura
Sun, 05/12/2013 - 19:38

laurafry

Good job! Welcome to the wonderfully challenging, endlessly fascinating world of weaving! Cheers Laura
Sun, 05/12/2013 - 19:38

laurafry

Good job! Welcome to the wonderfully challenging, endlessly fascinating world of weaving! Cheers Laura
Sun, 05/12/2013 - 21:13

clgy (not verified)

Thanks Laura! I hope I live to be 100 because there are endless variations of pattern and color scheme, and I want to try them all. :)

Cindy

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 21:20

ReedGuy

Did I tell ya? I'm going to live forever. :)

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 06:37

laurafry

Yes, change one thing and everything changes. Endless possibilities! Cheers Laura
Sat, 06/15/2013 - 04:08

clgy (not verified)

As promised, I am finally posting photos of the finished placemats. Thanks again to everyone who helped me along the way; I followed a draft for these (not a pattern) and had to figure out how to balance from left to right. In this case, it only required one extra thread on the left, so it wasn't too bad. However, I then added 38 more threads to the right side because I was worried about shrinkage. Weaving 10 placemats was challenging --- by the time I got to number six, I think most of the lightbulbs had finally gone off regarding balancing the pattern on both short ends as well! By the last placemat, I was ended the next mat on the same pick that had started it on, to truly make a full large oval on each end. Tricky. :) I also ended up serging the ends, and folding over only once, then machine stitching, even though I used 10/2 thread for the hems. Next time I will try sewing thread. These ended up about 14 x 18.5, which wasn't too bad, and of course my Mom loved them, and didn't notice any of the mistakes - at least not yet. :) Today is her birthday, and they arrived by mail just in time. I was really happy to have completed them and have a few more notes to jot down in my "lessons I have learned" folder. :) Thanks again to everyone -- it's so nice to have a little bit of advice when needed!  --- Cindy

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 04:08

laurafry

They look lovely.  I'm sure your mom will be delighted.  :)

cheers,

Laura

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:48

ReedGuy

You did a fine job. What's next? :)