If winding 253 ends, what do you do? Wind two at a time and wind 254 and later drop one end?  Make some kind of special tie-on loop for a single end?  Wind one at a time? A first single thread and an ending single thread do not have a partner to create a loop for the apron bar.  Or do you make one?  If so, would you share your method?

I tend to wind at least two ends at a time and suddenly have all kinds of warps with uneven amounts of warp ends.  I also beam back to front so want loops for the back apron bar. If you drop one when winding 2 threads at a time, doesn't this create a problem at the end of the warp while weaving?  Or again, is there some kind of method you have for dealing with this?  I have never seen an answer to this and just wondering what others do!

Jamie who is

Puzzled in Western KY

Comments

Sat, 08/29/2015 - 22:07

barleycorn

This is what I do, but others may do it differently. I like to wind 4 at a time and try to make my warps in multiples of 4 but sometimes that doesn't work so I would simply tie that last one on at the bottom of warping mill. 

Sat, 08/29/2015 - 23:19

danteen (not verified)

When I make a conventional warp, I often use 4 threads at a time.  I also try to make the multiples come out even as Patty does, but if not I just take the extra ends back to the beginning peg and either double them at the selvage edge or thread another end or two in the order that I would follow as if I was going to repeat the pattern.  If I do this and have three extra threads, I try to do it symmetrically on each side.   So when threading I would double each selvage end and thread the other "extra" one on the left side.   Doubled ends  at the selvage or an end that extends the pattern by one end is not really noticeable and so you don't have any problem with the "extra" threads.  Or if you want to be really precise and warp an odd number you can leave a loop with that last one on the ending peg of the warping board. Make it large enough to slip onto your apron rod as you mentioned.   I'm assuming that you are warping the loom back to front.  It all works.

Teena Tuenge

Sun, 08/30/2015 - 00:20

Missus T.

Hi, I warp BTF and use a mill to make warps.  I also want a warp loop at the back beam end.  I encountered the odd warp problem when making a striped warp with odd color counts. 

I decided to make color changes only at the "top" of the warp (the end with the thread by thread cross).  This will result in even numbers of ends of pass pairs.  I beam the whole lot and then simply do not thread ends that I do not need.  I am still making rather short and narrow warps one thread at a time, mainly b/c the yarn packages I am using do not lend themselves easily to the paddle method. 

I asked my weaving teacher about this and she said that there are many ways to get a good warp and this solution was just fine for keeping knots away from the warp beam end. 

 

Sun, 08/30/2015 - 16:14

jmbennett (not verified)

I really need math issues spelled out--I am just too visual of a learner to often understand what people describe with words. 

So If I divide 253 by 4, it comes out as 63.25.  Can you explain again what exactly you do?  

Sun, 08/30/2015 - 16:16

jmbennett (not verified)

and just wind even number of ends and then leave the extra threads hanging off the back beam.  Did I get that right?

Sun, 08/30/2015 - 19:41

Missus T.

Hi,

I would wind an even number of ends, beam everything including the extra ends, and, then, once the warp beam loop is safely rolled up, I would identify and pull the extra threads carefully from the cross  and wind them on a small knitting bobbin or even a piece of notched card.  I would clip on a small weight to the bobbin and hang it over the back of the back beam.  This is what I do when I add floating selvedges to the sides of a warp anyway, and it works great to keep everything tidy and organized.  The extra ends will trouble you no more, and if you take time to wind them up, then you won't get confused later if you have a broken thread somewhere.  Also, as you get close to the back loop in your warp when you are nearing the end of weaving, that extra warp end wound up around the card can be used to retension the other end of the warp end that was used in the weaving.  Hope this helps!