Hi:  

 

I would like to do a rag rug similar to the one that is pictured.  I believe it is a twill weave but I am not able to figure out the treddling sequence.  Thanks for you help.

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SallyE (not verified)

To help you, we need to know how many shafts and how many treddles you have available.   This is a pretty straight forward pattern, but we need more information.

 

makaz

I have a four shaft loom with 6 treddles. Thanks.

makaz

I have a four shaft loom with 6 treddles. Thanks.

SallyE (not verified)

With 4 shafts you are a little limited.   Will this work for you?  Max float is 4.

Cheryl'B

That's awesome!  How kind of you.  

makaz

Thank you SallyE.  I will use this for my rug.  

makaz

Thank you SallyE.  I will use this for my rug.  

SallyE (not verified)

Truth be told, weaving software is a game I love to play!

 

makaz

Thank you SallyE.  I will use this for my rug.  

endorph

nice Sally - is it alright if I steal it? Tina

SallyE (not verified)

Please do!  The more the merrier.

 

 

r1mein54 (not verified)

That does look like fun,,,I can just imagine expanding it to a triple for the widest points on the warp and then back down to single.  Also a possible variation is to do would be make double passes on the weft.

tommye scanlin

I believe the sample photo shows a broken point twill, extended in length before the point.  Don't have a weave draft software to draw it out but it would read something like this on 4 shafts, I think, as there appears to be three repeats of straight twill before the break point:

1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-1-2-(4-3)-2-1-4-3-2-1-4-3-(1-2)  --  (break points in parenthesis and would reverse back and forth in threading direction after several even repeat).

Once threaded, the treadling sequence would be straight through the treadles: 1-2-3-4, repeating over and over again without reverse to get the effect in the photo.

At least that's my reading of what the photo seems to show.

Good luck with it!

Tommye

Sara von Tresckow

I'd go with Tommy's suggestion. Threading 2 ends on the same shaft works for scarves and clothing fabrics, but would negatively impact the stability of a rug.

SallyE (not verified)

Here is what Tommy is suggesting.   Max float is 2.

mrdubyah (not verified)

Here's a drawdown of a broken point twill based on Tommy's suggestion.  Looks a lot like your photo. [I see Sally beat me to it!]

endorph

Sally's first draft and did a trompe as writ version - think I will use it for a shawl!

SallyE (not verified)

The only difference between my second vesion any the one mrdubyah posted is the tie-up, and thus the floats.  Tying only one shaft to each treddle yields, I think, a three thread float.  Tying two, yields a float of 2.

 

 

endorph

draft Sally posted above - varying the treadling sequence to see what I come up with - using 8/2 cotton to make some towels -maybe a table runner. . . .

ReedGuy

Your red sampler there is Goose eye. :) The set is a little light though, because it's a little broader than tall. I had the opposite effect happen to me in 2-ply wool, had to go from 12 to 8 epi to square it up. It was elongated.

endorph

it square  :-) - the actual point is somewhat rounded and not straight due to the threading giving everything a bit of a rounded feel - if you look in Dixon's book of 4 shaft patterns under undulating twill you will see what I mean. Sally's draft - by having two heddles threaded side by side in the same shaft created that effect. Gives more of an oblong than a square. It will be interesting to see what happens when I tromp as writ!

ReedGuy

Yes, a closer look at your photo and it's clearer now. ;)

endorph

the angle the photo is taken at! It would probably be more noticeable with a heavier yarn as well. . . .

SallyE (not verified)

This looks good endorph.  It will be fun to see how it looks when you "tromp as writ!"  

(I love that phrase - it's so old fashioned and funky at the same time!)

 

endorph

tromp as writ variation - I have added a "tabby" pick between each of the weft repeats for stability. I am thinking I like this one  a lot. Who knew an undulating twill on a point threading could be so fun!

SallyE (not verified)

I like it!

Now I'm wondering how this would look as a shadow weave. . .

Cheryl'B

Sally I'm with you on the phrase "tromp as writ".  It sounds so umm....knowing.  

endorph

treadling variations number 4 and 5 - so far the tromp as writ is my favorite.

SallyE (not verified)

reminds me of peacock feathers!   Beautiful!

 

endorph

the towels using SallyE's draft - you can find them on my project page. I ended up getting six towels out of the warp. this has been fun. My next project will be a table runner using this draft tromp as writ using differnt yarn and sett.