Hi all,

I saw that Michael (Georgia Yarn Co) has 30/1 cotton for sale.  I love fine yarns and am curious.  Can you please share your 30/1 cotton weaving experiences with me?

Thanks,

Alison

Comments

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 00:36

ReedGuy

Wow that is fine, I would be interested to read up on it to. :)

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 01:37

Sara von Tresckow

Cotton singles that fine would be made for industrial equipment where there is not as much "wear and tear" on the yarn during the weaving process.

You might want to try a small quantity and size it before using - for weft it would be fine, but probably too weak for a handloom warp.

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 02:26

Alison (not verified)

Thanks Sara.  That was my fear.  I have woven 120/2 silk with no broken threads - but that certainly isn't a cotton single!

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 02:57

anatcheva (not verified)

I've used it for weft (don't think I'd use it for warp...unless I was looking for a real challenge). It produces a very fine cloth. Note that the yarn is sold in large cones (I had presumed it would be lie the other UKI at 20 oz but no such luck......I have tons). If you happen to want indigo I'll better Michael's price).
Sat, 02/23/2013 - 03:08

ReedGuy

Singles I think are always a warp challenge. Even single ply wool that is 1/16" is a challenge. When you ply a yarn it adds quite a difference in strength. But that goes without saying.

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 03:39

Alison (not verified)

Too funny!  What did you use for warp?  And what was the final product?

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 04:35

lkautio (not verified)

Sewing thread, which is plied, can be similar weight. Perhaps it could be used as warp with the 30/1 as weft.

Laurie Autio

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 05:06

ReedGuy

I've certainly used overlock polyester on cones to weave. But polyester is stronger than cotton. It was also plied. I'm no one to sew, not yet, but some brands of sewing thread are simply junk. Goes along with some models of sewing machines I guess. Anyway, I know this from folks that sew. There are Canadian and German made thread we get here that are superior to some of the Asian stuff. I suspect the same companies in the US as some are multinationals.

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 05:50

Alison (not verified)

Well, I certainly have lots of sewing thread!  That makes a lot of sense.  Thanks Laurie.  And yes, there is a lot of variable quality in thread. What Canadian brands?

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 08:16

Michael White

This cotton is grown in GA & AL and spun in GA. Then shipped to NC were it is dyed. UKI's parent company is the worlds largest producer of elastic thread made in the USA in NC, 7 sizes, over150 colors. What UKI does with this cotton and very fine polyester is wrap it around spandex. I have sold some 30/1 cotton, not a lot, I have  sold lot more elastic thread. You can find more information on my web site. I would not use the 30/1 as a warp. Alison if you want a sample contact me. michael http://www.handweaver.us/georgia_yarn_company.htm
Sat, 02/23/2013 - 11:18

ReedGuy

Coats and Clark, also in the US and one German company that I have my hands on right now is GUtermann. Now Coats and Clark are also overseas, I see lots from Turkey.

I do not want to take anything from Mike. Sometimes it's always best to ask the distributor/reseller like himself who sells and gets lots of feedback from his buyers. And possibly uses it. I know there can be a hessitation to ask sometimes, but being a forum of thousands there is a "sniff test". ;)

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 12:55

anatcheva (not verified)

I used 20/2 cotton as the warp. The final product was a small tablecloth (though initially I was thinking about hankerchiefs...I think pairing it with 40/2 cotton would have been better for that).

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 17:30

kerstinfroberg

I got a "mistake" cone of 24/1 cotton once (it was meant to be plied) - but as I like different grists combined in my warps, I tried it together with other (cotton) yarns. I threaded it single, and it held up. Of course it was "helped" by the other yarns, but...

On sewing thread: they are usually tightly spun, and tightly plied. IMO it gives a much harsher hand to the fabric, which may sometimes be a good thing. This jacked has 50/3 merc cotton (sold for weaving yarn, but is very like sewing thread) for warp:

and I *think* the "harsh" yarn is good for this application. But I would not want to use it for things like shirts or shawls!

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 19:22

Alison (not verified)

Thanks Michael.  I may.  Right now, I have too much yarn and too much on my plate but it is tempting...

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 19:23

Alison (not verified)

40/2.... I've only seen that on line in one place, no colors.  Also tempting and it would make a lovely handkerchief!

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 19:26

Alison (not verified)

Wow!  What a great use of a "mistake!"  I'd love to see more pictures of this close up, different angles.  You should post this as one of your projects!

Sat, 02/23/2013 - 20:09

anatcheva (not verified)

Lunatic Fringe sells 40/2 cotton but yes it's only natural or white.
Sat, 02/23/2013 - 20:19

ReedGuy

That would be up my alley, as I like white or natural warp the most. :)

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 10:41

ReedGuy

Here is a polyester/cotton blend made in Canada on 6000 yard cones. It doesn't look cone shaped in the photo, but it is. The only other color is orange that I have seen. This is called survey string and near as I can tell it's 1/64" diameter. I have no idea of it's weaving properties, but it is strong with the polyster blended in it.

Here are the makers marks.

We use these in Hip chains to measure distance and according to the retailer these used in their hip chains have been proven to be 99.5% accurate for distance measurements.

I'm am curious and adventurous enough to try them as a warp and some cotton like Mike sells as weft. :)

I think they vary from $6-8 a cone. I think $6 locally.

 

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:30

Alison (not verified)

Given how stable it is, I would expect it to be an easy-to-weave warp but that it wouldn't provide a very nice fabric, even with the fine cotton.  If you do it, you'll have to come back here and tell us how it worked out.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:13

ReedGuy

I do plan on exploring it, it probably will not be real soon. But you folks aren't far away from a mouse click.  I've woven 64 epi ployester before, warp and weft in plain weave. Very short warp at the time because it was difficult for me to handle without my sectional I now how on the loom. I'm actually thinking of pushing 80 epi.

I would probably have to send off a sample to ya to judge it.