Would like help with identifying treddling sequence?



I would like to do a rag rug similar to the one that is pictured.  I believe it is a twill weave but I am not able to figure out the treddling sequence.  Thanks for you help.


Posted on Sat, 11/10/2012 - 17:42

To help you, we need to know how many shafts and how many treddles you have available.   This is a pretty straight forward pattern, but we need more information.


Posted on Mon, 11/12/2012 - 02:32

With 4 shafts you are a little limited.   Will this work for you?  Max float is 4.

Posted on Sun, 11/11/2012 - 02:13

That does look like fun,,,I can just imagine expanding it to a triple for the widest points on the warp and then back down to single.  Also a possible variation is to do would be make double passes on the weft.

Posted on Sun, 11/11/2012 - 15:12

I believe the sample photo shows a broken point twill, extended in length before the point.  Don't have a weave draft software to draw it out but it would read something like this on 4 shafts, I think, as there appears to be three repeats of straight twill before the break point:

1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-1-2-(4-3)-2-1-4-3-2-1-4-3-(1-2)  --  (break points in parenthesis and would reverse back and forth in threading direction after several even repeat).

Once threaded, the treadling sequence would be straight through the treadles: 1-2-3-4, repeating over and over again without reverse to get the effect in the photo.

At least that's my reading of what the photo seems to show.

Good luck with it!


Posted on Mon, 11/12/2012 - 01:40

I'd go with Tommy's suggestion. Threading 2 ends on the same shaft works for scarves and clothing fabrics, but would negatively impact the stability of a rug.

Posted on Mon, 11/12/2012 - 02:35

Here's a drawdown of a broken point twill based on Tommy's suggestion.  Looks a lot like your photo. [I see Sally beat me to it!]

Posted on Mon, 11/12/2012 - 02:52

Sally's first draft and did a trompe as writ version - think I will use it for a shawl!


Posted on Mon, 11/12/2012 - 03:01

The only difference between my second vesion any the one mrdubyah posted is the tie-up, and thus the floats.  Tying only one shaft to each treddle yields, I think, a three thread float.  Tying two, yields a float of 2.



Posted on Mon, 11/26/2012 - 03:40

draft Sally posted above - varying the treadling sequence to see what I come up with - using 8/2 cotton to make some towels -maybe a table runner. . . .


Posted on Mon, 11/26/2012 - 10:09

Your red sampler there is Goose eye. :) The set is a little light though, because it's a little broader than tall. I had the opposite effect happen to me in 2-ply wool, had to go from 12 to 8 epi to square it up. It was elongated.

Posted on Mon, 11/26/2012 - 12:19

it square  :-) - the actual point is somewhat rounded and not straight due to the threading giving everything a bit of a rounded feel - if you look in Dixon's book of 4 shaft patterns under undulating twill you will see what I mean. Sally's draft - by having two heddles threaded side by side in the same shaft created that effect. Gives more of an oblong than a square. It will be interesting to see what happens when I tromp as writ!


Posted on Mon, 11/26/2012 - 13:26

the angle the photo is taken at! It would probably be more noticeable with a heavier yarn as well. . . .


Posted on Mon, 11/26/2012 - 14:42

This looks good endorph.  It will be fun to see how it looks when you "tromp as writ!"  

(I love that phrase - it's so old fashioned and funky at the same time!)


Posted on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 03:17

tromp as writ variation - I have added a "tabby" pick between each of the weft repeats for stability. I am thinking I like this one  a lot. Who knew an undulating twill on a point threading could be so fun!


Posted on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 05:19

I like it!

Now I'm wondering how this would look as a shadow weave. . .

Posted on Sun, 12/02/2012 - 01:50

treadling variations number 4 and 5 - so far the tromp as writ is my favorite.


Posted on Fri, 12/07/2012 - 14:36

the towels using SallyE's draft - you can find them on my project page. I ended up getting six towels out of the warp. this has been fun. My next project will be a table runner using this draft tromp as writ using differnt yarn and sett.