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Has anyone out there in RH land ever made a rag rug on their loom? How did it turn out?

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I've been toying with the

I've been toying with the idea of doing a rag rug - but got myself into doing a hand knotted one instead (which I thought would be impossible - but is turning out to be very easy). I needed to be able to use up the backload of my spinning. I'd be curious to know how you - or anyone else - gets on with a rag rug.

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Can you post some pictures? 

Can you post some pictures?  I'd love to see what you're doing and understand what you mean by a hand knotted rug.  I have tons of knitting yarns I'd love to use up on my rh loom.

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Claudia

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Hi, thanks for your

Hi,

thanks for your note,

I've posted a few pics on my "project" page/file - here on weavolution - however, you get more pics (some just uploaded this afternoon) and can follow the "journal" so to speak of the project by clicking here. Feel free to leave a comment or ask a question.

 

Alexis

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Denim on the rigid heddle: 

Denim on the rigid heddle:  has anyone used their rigid heddle loom for a rug made with scrap denim?  I am a novice weaver with a new rigid heddle loom.  I would love to make a rag rug using old blue jeans.  Any advice?

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Nancy

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I did a small rag rug last

I did a small rag rug last year just for fun

 

Mini-rug 12"X23" made from denim rag strips,
handwoven on Erica rigid heddle loom

Click this link for slightly bigger picture

http://www.rabbitgeek.com/pics/weave2sml.jpg

Have a good day!

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Wow, very pretty. It looks

Wow, very pretty. It looks really soft too.

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How wide is the piece you're

How wide is the piece you're working on? It looks really wide. That would be cool. My loom is 32" but I've been afraid to use the whole width.

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I have an 80cm ashford loom -

I have an 80cm ashford loom - the piece is . . .oh my . . . I don't know he he he. I'm using a 7.5 dent reed but . . . let me measure it and drop you a note in the morning (its late on my side of the world and the loom is downstairs).

Alexis

 

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I made the strips from a pair

I made the strips from a pair of jeans. Following instructions I read somewhere on the internet, starting at the bottom cuff of one leg, I cut a 3/4" strip as a spiral up the leg of the pants until I got to the top of the inseam. Then I did the other leg. I had long strips of denim to play with. And a funky looking pair of cut-offs.

The strip was okay where the "lap" seam occurred. Where the seam is serged, I might trim it next time since it makes a lump in the rug where that happens, but not a big deal.

Have a good day!

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That is so cool! That's the

That is so cool! That's the same way you make T-shirt yarn I think. Start at the bottom and cut up the back and then the front seperately. Time to go to Goodwill and get some jeans!

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We've got the same loom. Mine

We've got the same loom. Mine is an Ashford 32". So you haven't had any problem using the whole width of the loom? I don't know why the idea of that makes me nervous, lol!

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he he he - if it brings

he he he - if it brings reassurance - I have used the full width of the loom to make myself a blanket/throw (pictures here) - and it worked beautifully.

The rug I'm currently working on . . . is . . . (pulling out measuring tape) . . . 52cm so it's going to be something like 48cm once its off the loom. I would have done the whole width but I was beginning from the premise that the number of ends had to be divisible by four (as per the instructions in the Ashford Rigid Heddle Weaving book). But their project was working with fleece staples. I wanted to use up some of my home-spun - did some reading and realised that "hey! this is the same method used to make oriental rugs!" and re-calculated from there (having already warped up). So you can see this was really a stumble along and discover what happens experiment (grin).

How long it will be is another question entirely!

A

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Love the blanket! OK...now

Love the blanket! OK...now I feel better. I'm going to use that whole darn loom, all 32" , lol!

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Ok, don't laugh...I'm

Ok, don't laugh...I'm extremely new to this and haven't found a teacher or class for the basics yet.  I want to try rag weaving, both with cotton fabric (from my huge quilting stash) and from denim.  The warp that I currently have is 8/4 carpet warp.  Is this appropriate for the rag rugs?  Thank you from the bottom of my stash!

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That's what I have too 8/4

That's what I have too 8/4 rug warp. I'm not sure if I want to use that or a bunch of left over Lily Sugar and Cream cotton yarn. If I use the Lily, I should probably get a 5 dent heddle. I think 8/4 is ok...anyone have any other suggestions?

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just a quick follow up - the

just a quick follow up - the rug is off the loom now. I've posted a pic on my project page here at Weavolution, but you can see bigger (better?) one's on my blog.

I've not done the finishing yet - waiting for my clippers to arrive - but I'm really thrilled with the end result. It was seriously dead easy. On the last day I figured out how to do the knotting direct from the skein/ball rather than pre-cutting them. Not sure how to explain that one - it may require a photo-blog post. It's not tricky (honest) it just doesn't "look" like it ought to work.

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Wow, kitty has taken over

Wow, kitty has taken over that rug! I don't blame her...it looks very comfy :) That came out so cool. How long did it take to complete?

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Just read all this and am

Just read all this and am replying to several of the posts. 

The 8/4 cotton rug warp works just fine - the trick is getting the sett right for the width of your cotton strips.  I've done some with 10epi with 1/2 inch strips they were placemat rather than rug heft.  6 epi with 1 inch strips wasn't heavy enough either.  I want a rug that lays down on the floor and is heavy enough to stay put.  Found a book at my library that was inspirational and informative:  Weaving Contemporary Rag Rugs.

I got the rug weaving bug again when I saw an article on chennille rug weaving in an old Dec 2008 Handwoven.  It turned out to be an EXCELLENT way to use up a LOT of knitting yarn scraps, particularly the cheaper acrylics.  OK, honestly I haven't actually done the rugs yet but weaving the chennille was a breeze.   Got overwhelmed with the complexity of designing the finished rug and planning the color order for weaving the chennille, so I just tried to make adjacent colors 'go together'. 

 

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thanks,   yeah - it has been

thanks,

 

yeah - it has been entertaining - I no sooner get one to give it up and the other takes over! I've clipped and washed it - looks great, in total I think it took about two weeks - the caveat here is that I only worked on it an hour here, two hours there, and there were a couple of days when I did not pick it up at all. So . . .

Towards the end I figured out a faster way to knot it - I'm still working on how to describe it - may have to be a vid - so it might take less time next time.

 

thanks again for your note,

A

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Thanks for the tip. We have

Thanks for the tip. We have that book. I'll put it on hold when I get back from vacation :)

DJ

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I had some 8/4 carpet warp

I had some 8/4 carpet warp left on my Kromski 24" RH loom and wanted to sample with leftover fabric strips so I made a placemat  size piece, about 14" and the full 24" width of the Harp.  I was using 1" cotton fabric strips folded in half, so 1/2".  I stitched up the edges and threw it in the washing machine since it was a sample for placemats.  It came out full of holes, totally unusable and ready for one thing-the trash!  I was on the 10-dent heddle and warped with single thread in each so 10 epi.  It might work if you did 12 epi or if you alternate with carpet warp in the weft, I don't know.  It was a disaster for me and I am now winding a warp, using carpet warp, for my 4 harness floor loom to make the placemats with 5/2 cotton weft and a sett of 12.  I wasn't able to pack the rags in firmly enough with the fabric for weft.

Any ideas why my RH placemat failed?  I know, I should have taken pictures.  Believe me, it wasn't worth the pixels.

Claudia

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 I'm currently using all 80

 I'm currently using all 80 cm of my Ashford reed on a baby blanket.  Actually, it's becoming 2 baby blankets, and therein I think lies the secret for me: if I'm going to warp the whole width, why not put on enough warp to make something substantial?  Part of this warp was cut off another loom, so long ago that I couldn't recall what frustration or problem caused me to cut it off in the first place.  Since it was cut, the warping was thread by thread, and I added about the same amount to a central panel to fill the width. But I look at warping as half of the weaving, rather than viewing it as the chore that precedes the weaving, so I usually enjoy the whole process, even when it's slow.

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Just saw this post and had to

Just saw this post and had to reply since I had something similar happen when my rag weft was nylon.   I think that if there isn't enough *grab* between the cotton warp and the weft material machine washing causes the warp to slip together creating the holes.  

I don't think that this has anything to do with the warp sett or weft size but may have something to do with the warp contents.    I have done warp rep with the same Mayfield 8/4 cotton warp using very rough rope as weft and it still slides as much as it can when machine washed.  Maybe this is why rug weavers so often recommend linen rug warp.  I haven't worked with it yet to know.    I do know that if you use the Mayfield cotton rug warp with cotton fabric weft the slipping doesn't occur.

Since I have heard that ANYTHING can be used as weft I guess the trick is to make sure your warp can hold it or you have to lock it with a tabby thread. 

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