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Is anyone interested in these things?  If so please join.

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Thank you for forming this

Thank you for forming this group!

I'm coming back to tablet weaving after a very very long gap, and only use my inkle loom as a warping board or to hook my backstrap weaving to, so this is the ideal opportunity for me to learn how to use the inkle loom properly!

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I am very new, like just

I am very new, like just ordered my tablets, to tablet weaving but have woven on my inkle for a while now.  I'm sure (fingers crossed) that we will get some experienced members to help us along.  If not, we can learn together. ;)

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There's also the Twist group

There's also the Twist group which is tablet weaving.  What a fun type of weavingL<

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 Thanks for starting the

 Thanks for starting the group. I've made one tablet-woven band with a threaded-in design (threaded-in = the design colours are determined by how the colours of the warp are placed and from which direction they pass through the holes of the tablet).  I hope to add tablet-weaving bands to things I weave on the rigid heddle looms--borders, trims, bag handles, etc.  Haven't done any inkle weaving with the string heddles on the inkle loom, but I've done a little warp-faced weaving on the rigid heddle, which amounts to the same thing, only having the rigid heddle on blocks seems easier than making the sheds on an inkle loom.  I also recently got a Glimakra band loom, but haven't put it together yet.  It's basically a glorified inkle loom that has treadles, so you have your hands free for shuttle and beating.  That's my outrageous weaving expenditure for 2009.

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Hi Everyone.  I just joined

Hi Everyone.  I just joined and hope I can contribute to discussions of tablet weaving.  I haven't done inkle or rigid heddle, but I've done lots of loom weaving and tablet weaving.  If anyone is into weaving with 6-holed tablets, that's something I know about.

Bonnie.

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i'd like to know more about

i'd like to know more about the warp-faced weaving you did with your rigid heddle. Sorry, I know this group is about tablet weaving but just one teeny OT question please!

Did you use the rigid heddle or did you use string heddles? If you used the rigid heddle, how easy/hard was it to keep the piece warp faced?

Laverne

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 It's not OT--the result is

 It's not OT--the result is identical to inkle weaving.  I used the rigid heddle only to change the sheds up and down, not to beat.  I used a shuttle with a beveled edge to beat and pulled the weft tight, so it would draw in substantially from the width in the reed.  I advanced the warp every couple of inches to stay far enough from the reed that it was easy to keep the warp facing going.  It helps to sett the yarn as close as you can while still getting it through the holes and slots, and using a thinner, strong yarn for weft helps keep the warp-face tight.  If the weft colour matches the edge warps, you barely see the weft along the edges.

The 'ribbon' I wove was warp-emphasis, not totally warp-faced.  It was intended for a wreath I'm making, but I seem to have hidden it from myself.  I do that a lot lately.

You can, of course, put a tablet weaving warp on a rigid heddle loom and skip using the reed altogether.  Just seems like a waste of loom real estate.  I used my floor inkle loom for tablet weaving with great success.

There's a belt project in one of the newer rigid heddle books (Weaving Made Easy--Gipson) that is made this way.

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Welcome everyone!!  I'm very

Welcome everyone!!  I'm very happy to have people here.  I love my inkle loom and really look forward to also learing tablet weaving.  I'm mainly a tapestry weaver but it's fun to be able to use the inkle for straps and such.

Joined: 06/20/2009
Thanks for the tips! Laverne

Thanks for the tips!

Laverne

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 You're welcome.  I looked at

 You're welcome.  I looked at Hands On Rigid Heddle Weaving (Davenport) last night, and she also has a small section on warp-faced bands.  Same method, use the rigid heddle for shed-making and beat with a belt shuttle.  She said it doesn't matter what size the weft is, as long as you pull it tight.  She also shows a nifty toothpick/paper-cutout gauge to help the weaver make sure the band width stays even.  It sits on top of the woven part, so you don't have to keep hunting for that little ruler to measure.

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I have been thinking about

I have been thinking about buying that Davenport book-even more reason to do so now. That toothpick/paper gauge sounds ideal for my backstrap weaving too.

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I hadn't spotted that in the

I hadn't spotted that in the book - I must go back and read it!

I have a few RH books now, but Davenports book is the one to refer to for technique. Has anyone got her textures book?Should I have it on my Christmas wish list?

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 I think Christmas is too far

 I think Christmas is too far away and you should exchange gifts on autumn equinox or Halloween, with the textures book first on your wish list. If you want to work with a pickup stick or two (I do), the textures book is great. Here's a free pattern from Handwoven that uses one of the windowpane patterns from Davenport's textures book, if you'd like a teaser. http://www.interweave.com/weave/projects_articles/Shetland-Scarf-Feb09.pdf

OK, I will get back OT now....

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Please let others know this

Please let others know this group is here, since it started late a lot of people don't know we're here.

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Is it really so OT? An inkle

Is it really so OT? An inkle loom works the same way as other simple looms, and techniques used in backstrap or Rigid Heddle weaving are perfect for bands so there is a natural cross-over. Why not learn from these similar techniques? I came across a short monograph on handweaving.net that says you can take the pattern shafts from some 4 shaft drafts and if your yarn is fine enough, use them successfully on a rigid heddle loom, so this should apply equally well to the inkle loom, which is used for beautiful braids made in the finest of yarns. I must hunt up that web reference as it lists several weaves that are ideal for this sort of adaptation.

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 Did you see there is a TWIST

 Did you see there is a TWIST group also (Tablet Weavers' International Studies and Techniques)? http://www.weavolution.com/forum/976  It doesn't look like anyone's home there, but I'm wondering if it might be better to have separate groups for inkle and tablet weaving.  Just a thought.  The products have similar applications, but the process is quite different.

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 It appears I have managed to

 It appears I have managed to assemble a Glimakra band loom in spite of the limited instructions, blurry photos, and fine print.  All that remains is tying on the apron dowels and putting on some more texsolv heddles.  I'll probably have to adjust the shaft tie-up once I actually start weaving. Of course I missed the instruction 'While still tied in a bundle, cut the end loops of the heddles to separate them' so I am cutting them apart one at a time.

Are you supposed to put a half twist in string heddles as you put them on to make the eyes  more perpendicular to the warp?

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Traditional Swedish method of

Traditional Swedish method of inkle weaving with a quill and band knife:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6WJss9ipFY

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Oh my gosh, I'm so jealous. 

Oh my gosh, I'm so jealous.  I wanna see pictures. :)  A band loom is on my list of looms to aquire.

(i will take those pics later tonight of how I finish ends, hubby has my laptop with photoshop on it.)

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I just created a step by step

I just created a step by step set of instructions for cardweaving in my blog http://www.nellabellabeads.blogspot.com/

I found lots of sites that told me how to set up the loom and how to make the cards but none that showed me which way to actually turn the cards to get them into the right place for the patterns I was trying to create.  I have tried to fill that gap.

Please! Check out the site and see if the instructions help you. If not, please contact me and I can work with them to make it easier to understand!

 

Marni

 

 

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I always put a half twist in

I always put a half twist in them if I am working on a wide warp-talking backstrap loom here. On a narrow warp I don't.

Some photos of making them on a wide warp..............

www.flickr.com/photos/39560980@N05/sets/72157621462362178/

and then just wound around the hand for a narrow warp................

www.weavolution.com/node/4610    scroll about 3/4 of the way down the page.

Not sure if this works for the inkle loom.

 

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Thanks Marni.  You did a

Thanks Marni.  You did a great job.

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It's even better now that the

It's even better now that the pictures are there.  I thought they had uploaded successfully but it appears that was not the case. They are there now, however, but in the wrong order.  With luck that will be fixed tonight.

Thanks!

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Joined this group because I

Joined this group because I have an Inkle loom and don't know how to warp it up. I would like to Inkle weave in small spaces on holiday etc. so essentially is something  that will be done sporadically, unless the bug really bites.

 

I'm off know to read all the posts and to find info on warping.

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Hi, welcome to inkling!

Hi, welcome to inkling! Warping up the loom is going to depend on the pattern you are going to do. Most inkle patterns are warp-faced, so the order and amount of coloured threads is all important Its also going to depend on which technique you plan on using. You might consider getting hold of a good book on the subject, like the Helen Bress book. Some of the older weaving books from the 70s and earlier have good sections on inkle weaving as well. There are quite a few good inkle weaving sites around:

www.palmerlooms.com/palmerlooms7.html

www.schachtspindle.com/instructions/weaving/inkle.htm

show you how to warp the loom up. all looms are pretty similar so this applies to most of them.

After that, there is a tutorial on Weavezine you might like to try:

www.weavezine.com/content/weaving-inkle-loom

before looking for patterns online - and there are plenty to choose from. You could also join the backstrap Group here on Weavolution as most backstrap techniques can be used on the inkle loom.

One final thing: you are better using weaving yarn, or mercerised cotton, for your projects, because of the tension put on the warp threads, and also because soft and fluffy yarns rub badly against cotton heddles and can break. You can also use wool, as long as it is tightly spun. Knitting yarn is generally not strong enough, nor tightly spun.

Hope this helps!

 

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most definitely I'm interested. Sign me up. I just ordered tablet weaving cards & a couple of books. And I've been inkle waving for a long time.

 

Cathy S/Willowwind

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Thank you Caroline, your post

Thank you Caroline, your post was very helpful and it won't be long before I'm started. Need to find some mercerised cotton or linen thread first. My partner is showing an interest in the Inkle loom so maybe it won't be me using it in the end or maybe we can have two of these lovelies in the end. :)

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Thanks for the post. I checked out the article on Weavezine. Its most helpful to someone (me) who'd forgotten most of what I knew about weaving.

Cathy S/Willowwind

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Here is another useful page I

Here is another useful page I have found that appears to be reasonably up to date:

www.heatherspages.net/index.htm

Heather has written some simple pick-up instructions in pdf format, based on classes she gives.

She gives Inkleweaving.com as a link - be aware that its now a japanese site with no connection to inkleweaving.

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  I looked at

 

I looked at inkleweaving.com & its a japanese sight that's about boots. It has nothing to do with inkle weaving at all.

 

 

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The owner didn't get to renew

The owner didn't get to renew her domain registration, so it was snapped up by someone else - they usually try and sell it back at a profit, grrr, but at least they fell flat on their faces this time!

 A useful tool for getting back to the old site is the Way Back Machine. Here is the URL for the old site with lots of information:

web.archive.org/web/20050307145757/www.inkleweaving.com/index.html

It takes you back to 2005, so some of the links may not exist any more, but then you only have to put the URL into the search engine at the Way Back Machine to find any older site again.

 

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Thanks, I bookmarked the link. FYI, we're nearly drowning here in cnetral Ky. Its rained so much that everything is flooding, people are being evacuated from low areas, streets are closed & the street dept just announces they are out of "road closed" signs- they've used them all. It's the worst flooding I've seen in many years.

Thanks for the link,

Cathy S/Willowwind