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FOR THOSE WHO ARE VISITING FROM HOT THREADS ON THE HOME PAGE................

WELCOME!! YOU ARE IN THE BACKSTRAP WEAVIG GROUP.

 

Let's have a space where we can post our current or finished projects.

And we don't have to limit ourselves to only backstrap woven things.

This will be a nice way to get to know each other and see what we are all into-please feel free to post ANY kind of fiber or craft project that you are involved with.

Laverne

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OK I'll start the ball

OK I'll start the ball rolling here.....

Probably another 2 weeks to go on this. It's the third of a series of sashes I am making to represent the weaves from coastal Peru to the Amazon Basin. 

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This isn't back-strap, but it

This isn't back-strap, but it could be!

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this was last year on a

this was last year on a opendoor workshop. weaving with handspun paper on a litlle loom with stringheddles.It was only for this occasion that i spun some paper.It was fun but takes a lot of time. you can also see some of my selfmade spindles

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hi Jeannine, That is soooo

hi Jeannine, That is soooo cool!

How did you go about spinning the paper? Did you tear it into strips, spray it with water then spin it? How thick were the strips? I've experimented with metallic cellophane paper - unsuccessfully so far, and you are the first person I have met who has actually done it!

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that pattern is so intricate

that pattern is so intricate and delicate, the way the colours play against each other in it is beautiful

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I, too am fascinated with

I, too am fascinated with this idea of handspun paper-I have never heard of such a thing. How does it behave whe you weave with it and what did you use your inished piece for?

Laverne

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the finished piece was rather

the finished piece was rather stiff.I think most things should be for decoration only ;wallhangings ,background for pictures perhaps  ,decorative paper runners.If treated with acryl medium(as used by painters) it would become water resistent and could be used for placemats.I have seen some great objects in an exposition of italien artists in tournai(belgium)the artist was Ivano Vitali (he has a website) . I have seen it used to make a windowscreen to prevent looking inside a room too.

but there is also japanese mullberrypaper that is used for clothing but I don't know about that .It was just an experiment i did.

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i once saw a small woven bag

i once saw a small woven bag made out of spun paper yarn.

here is a nice page that tells you how to have a go at the spinning paper lark (havent had a go myself yet, but its on the agenda)

greenupgrader.com/2138/handspun-recycled-newspaper-yarn/

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I cut the paper(local

I cut the paper(local adverisingmagazinges,newspaper is to soft)in stripes from 1,5 cm and sprayed water on with a  re-usable perfumbotle(plantsprayer was to much) to moisten ,then started rolling by hand .when i had a piece of yarn I tied it to my lightes spindle and spun  futher; i overlay the ends . my saori-coach told me you can roll the paper on a rough surface such as concrete tile to work faster but i didn't try that . for commercial paper yarn the paperstripes are folded double perhaps that ads more strenght because the moist paper is weak and i had to spin very patiently.

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yes,thats how i did it. only

yes,thats how i did it. only difference i moistened the paper a litlle bit with a perfumspray bottle.very good link!!!

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The article doesn't say, but

The article doesn't say, but I think the spindle is only used for storage, not to actually spin the paper like you would spin wool fibres. The paper is too stiff for that. I've tried using a metallic cellophane because it looked pretty, but there was no give, so I put it aside. I should have another go and recycle some newspaper which might be easier.

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actually, when i have played

actually, when i have played with spinning paper (just a bit... not a huge amount) i used the spindle for the spinning.  i haven't used anything heavier than newspaper though...

colored tissue paper makes for GREAT spun paper. i used a few colors of blue and green tissue paper to spin  and beaded yarn (yes, i added beads during plying) for a spinning challenge with the theme of rain.

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beautiful! and really

beautiful! and really inspiring. someday i want to be able to do stuff like that.... someday....

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hi guys! i finially finished

hi guys! i finially finished my loom bag. made from my first weaving on my backstrap loom.

i posted all about over on my blog.

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I shall collect some

I shall collect some catalogues, and try again. I like the idea of tissue paper as well, there are some beautiful colours available, and it looks great with the beads.A lovely novelty yarn!

Otherwise the paper waste that goes into my recycle bin ends up as land-fill a lot of the time, as there are not enough businesses recycling paper and other re-usable materials.

You have inspired me to look for other fibres!

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I like that!  I have a long

I like that!  I have a long bag similar to yours to take my Journey Loom when its not in use and need a similar bag to take my backstrap sticks. It makes storage much easier, and prettier!

Your choice of closure is good too, and very important! I have a  velcro strip on my bag, and it gets caught on any weaving I have on the loom if I pack it up to take it somewhere, grrr.

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What a beautiful job you have

What a beautiful job you have done. Are those lucet cords you have for the draw string? I'm sure if I go to  your blog I will find all the answers there.

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Yup! - on both counts. hehe

Yup! - on both counts. hehe

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Jen, this is lovely. Have you

Jen, this is lovely. Have you blogged about this? If not, you should. I would like to see it up against something so I can get an idea of its size.

Laverne

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Hi everyone, I've been a bit

Hi everyone, I've been a bit distracted by my new toy, a journey loom, which is a type of tapestry loom you can see here:

www.weavingalife.com/

and have finished my first project, an amulet bag:

I added a twig with a gum nut, a piece of lavender from my garden, and the most precious of all, a downy feather from a little Barbary Dove I rescued last year, who can never be let free because he is a feral. If the powers that be really thought about it, we all are ferals, because the lands and the environment are all older than we are, and humans are only transient on this planet. We should try to be the best we can be, feral or not, and live in harmony with our surroundings.

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very cool. i've been

very cool.

i've been interested in the journey loom... they say you can carry your work in progress on it. how does that work> do you just rool it round the end sticks after you take the loom apart? 

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I made a little red stripe

I made a little red stripe ribbon/bookmark that I uploaded to my projects.

http://www.weavolution.com/node/4334

I gave some description about it as well.

Have a good day!

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Yes, you undo the bolts, then

Yes, you undo the bolts, then roll up the weaving around the top and bottom sticks, and it all goes into this very neat quiver, with a strap that goes over your shoulder.

The quiver is a longer version of the one you wove.

Its a lovely loom to weave on, very simple, and if you follow the book that comes with the kit, its very meditative, as you concentrate on what your hands are doing and how you do it. Its like spinning on a spindle where the yarn-making takes place between your fingers. and its just as portable.

Don't be deceived by the looks of the loom either, you can put quite a bit of pressure on the warp and beat the shed firmly.

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I was spinning and weaving

I was spinning and weaving with children on a holiday camp:

A lovely man lend us four of his foxsheeps for the whole time:

 

I have forgotten to take pictures of our lovely sheep-wool gallery. I had 20 samples of wool and pictures of the sheeps as well. Most of the wool where rare german breeds like Rauhwollige Pommersche Landschaf, Skudde, Heidschnucke, Coburger Fuchsschaf, Zackelschaf, Moorschnucke, friesisches Milchschaf,... But we also had Australian Merino, flax and cotton.

We washed the wool of the foxsheeps and made a spindle out of sticks like this one and I taugth them how to spin on it:

www.flickr.com/photos/9200466@N08/2850751260/

To get an idea how the weaving works we started with weaving on a cardboard. Warp is some cheap cotton and weft is merino roving.

After that we made a wallhanging for the foresters lodge, where the workshop took place:

Preparing the warp:

5 kids working together at the wallhanging: 

 

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Very nice piece! Great

Very nice piece!

Great colors! I like the picture of the kids holding the loom!

Great way to get many hands involved.

How well does cotton warp behave with the wool weft?

Can it be washed together?

Have a good day!

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A great set of photos, and

A great set of photos, and the kids would have had such fun, so plenty of good memories too! The spindles are very ingenious. Aboriginal spinners in central Australia  still use something similar, so this is probably how spindles started, as crossed twigs, and then got more sophisticated, shaped from stones, bones and wood.

What is a fox sheep? My german (?) isn't up to trying to translate those names.

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It is beautiful and amazing.

It is beautiful and amazing. What excellent work you are doing.  colors, involvement, everything.

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Hey Franco, you are putting

Hey Franco, you are putting the rest of us to shame! A little loom like the one on that project page would be great, but you will need some way to control and slacken off  the tension on a warp weave - ask me how I know?( I had to take my banana bag off its frame because of this problem, grrrr!) The web page with that project on shows the loom as having an extra bar across above the frame, with the tension controlled by a couple of bolts on a threaded steel bar. THAT would give you a great portable loom, because you cannot club wild bison to death on a bus when you get frustrated, it upsets the other passengers lol!

I'll be interested to see what you come up with. Its given me a few ideas too, hehe!

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 Thanks, well it is a bit

 Thanks, well it is a bit like a carpet or tapestry to use linen or cotton as warp and wool as weft. And most people get their big carpets or tapestry weavings cleaned at the dry cleaner. My carpets didn´t get washed, hoovering and some treatment with the beater while lying on snow is all I did. But I made table-runner with wool as weft and linen as warp, I washed them like I would wash pure wool. No problem at all. It will get difficult to balance the fabric if you use both  wool and linen as warp, but you surely knew that :).

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 Thank you. That´s

 Thank you. That´s interesting that the aboriginal spinners used similar spindles. I learned to spin on such a spindle as a kid and  people told me that it is very unusual in germany.  It seems more common in turkey.  I love it that way because if you finish spinning you simply pull out the big stick, than the smaller ones and then you have your ball of wool and can start plying straigth away. 

Foxsheep is my own translation of german "Fuchsschaf". Fuchs meaning fox and Schaf meaning sheep. I don´t know if there is an english word for this special breed. They are called like this because of their color. The lambs are born red-brown, at the age of 6-12 month their colors will change to a golden fleece. Look here for a picture of lambs and mother: www.schulbauernhof-ummeln.de/ueber-uns/unsere-tiere/coburger-fuchsschafe.html

Don´t know how all the other breeds are called in english, if you like I can link to pictures at flickr for all the breeds. 

 

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 Thank you, the colors were

 Thank you, the colors were picked by the children themselves. 

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Please do! I'm sure I'm not

Please do! I'm sure I'm not the only one who is interested in ancient breeds like this. Its funny, until I moved to Australia, I thought most sheep had dark  faces, but out here, nearly all sheep are the one colour, like the Merino. Colour is frowned upon by sheep farmers, except for handspinners, who love coloured fleece.

The more I learn about textiles in other countries, the more it seems that communities around the world  developed the same ideas, techniques and tools with little communication and even less opportunity for travel.

I wasn't aware that the Aborigines used a spindle until I saw a book on the Beanie Fest at Alice Springs.  But its logical that the first spindles started out like this - the need to produce a strong twine or string would have inspired many attempts to make production easier, and its not surpising that the same idea appears in many different countries at about the same time.
This would also explain why so many communities around the world have a strong tradition of backstrap weaving, and its still widely used today, although there has been little or no opportunity to exchange ideas and technologies.

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   I finaly finished this

 

 I finaly finished this project. It has some errors but I learned a lot. I invented the patterns as i was weaving.it has  4-selvedges.I filled the last bit ,stripes only,with a weavingneedle.the warp is lightbrown and blue coton . the inlay is wool i had around.I doubled it .I followed  no pattern but invented as i was weaving.I used the book from barbara Taber and Marilyn Anderson to see how I had to setup .

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Nice work Jeannine, Good job

Nice work Jeannine,

Good job with the 4 selvedges-I can't tell where you needle wove at all! What kind of yarn did you use?

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simple stripes tryout: i made

simple stripes tryout: i made a warp with some leftover knitting coton.not ideal but thats what i had laying around.first i warped 2 light ,2 dark treads,  in the middle i found a way to warp 1red,1yellow by fixing the tread on each end (don't cut, put a weight on it or so)then i made the stringheddles as laverne explained on flickr.first i had to do it over but second time it worked(forgot the second clockwiseturned loop).then i sew the warp to the sticks as explained in backstrapweaving(four selvedges,B.Taber and M.Anderson). i don't know if i am going to do four selvedges but  this way the sticks don't fall out easily.I started weaving one thick ,one thin weft because i remembered that from bandweavinglessons long ago.the thick weft makes one colour come-out more .by weaving two of the same after another  you can change the colour .I don't know if this makes any sense but thats howfar I got .now I am of on vacation until 28-8.enjoy weaving!jeannine

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Thank you Jeannine for

Thank you Jeannine for sharing that sample.

That middle stripe looks well organized.

I could see myself doing something like that.

Have a good vacation!

 

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Hi Jeannine, The idea of

Hi Jeannine,

The idea of weaving alternating thick and thin wefts is very interesting-i have never thought of that before. I would like to see how it changes when you change the weft order to thin and thick.

Laverne

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I think that i must take a

I think that i must take a thicker weft because now you can not see much difference.for example the thin goes under the yellow warp threads ,the thick goes under the red warp threads.when beating fermly you see only a thin yellow line between the thicker red lines  so the general impression is red.by weaving two thin after another the general impression changes to yellow.below is the sample from weaving class ;the teacher made the warp .It  was woven on a loom but the principal is the same

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Wow...very cool. I love the

Wow...very cool. I love the colors!

DJ

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Hot color towel on backstrap

Hot color towel on backstrap loom

Here is another finished towel on left measures about 12 inch x 16 inch. The washcloth on right is about 9 x 9 inch. Details about the towel are below. The colors are Sugar n Creme Hot Green, Hot Orange, with Peaches N Creme White. All cotton worsted yarn.

Here is the start of another backstrap towel. First the warp is wrapped around the upright sticks of a craft frame in a figure 8 pattern. I am using the craft frame as a warping board.

The loom bars and leash sticks are inserted, then the warp is slid off the craft frame/warping board.

I have setup my backstrap and I'm halfway done with the weaving in this picture. I turned the loom around and started again from the other side and finished up in the middle.

This project was started on a Tuesday and was finished by Saturday.

Have a good day!

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 I bought an Easy Weaver loom

 I bought an Easy Weaver loom to experiment with using it for weaving pebbleweave bands on roadtrips.  It came prewarped (from like 1987 by the smell:>).  My 4.5 yr took it very quickly and is currently going back every so often to weave another row or two at a time.  I'm so happy.

 

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Thats great! I remember

Thats great! I remember having a little loom at about the same age - I have no idea how long I used it for, no-one in my family weaves or spins, but it must have had an influence on what I do now, as I feel very grounded when I'm creating with fibres and yarn.

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This is just precious!!! The

This is just precious!!! The expression of conentration on his little face!! Cute little loom too.

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Some have joked that I'm

Some have joked that I'm setting up my own fiber production sweatshop:>.  Seriously though I do hope that being exposed to it at this age will spark an abiding interest for him later on.  He asks to "help" with every piece I work on so I've had to work on being able to let go of perfectionism and just unweave after the "helping" :>.

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hi to all backstrapweavers,I

hi to all backstrapweavers,I am back .I planned doing some weaving but  i got no futher then some spinning in the evening ..Nature and the beaches were wonderfull.the museums were more a disapointment;the one i  have visited had not much on weaving ,just a warpweighted loom ;but beautiful items from stone-age and iron-times:beltbucles,pins, combes etc.all the entrances were expencive and we were on a rather thight budget.But nature is free and we enjoyed it very much.

on demand of Laverne a photo of my denmark holiday.see more  here:www.flickr.com/photos/35709079@N08/sets/72157622205909564/

 

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I know, I really know, we are

I know, I really know, we are a weaving site.  BUT, how did you spin the paper and how did you add the beads.  Feel free to PM the answer to me.  I would be using the yarn for weaving so it's ok, right?

I have a brand new drop spindle, a little heavier than my past ones, and I love spinning on it.  I also have lots of tissue paper.

TIA for the info.

Claudia, Weavolution co-founder

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tell ya what... i'm going to

tell ya what... i'm going to work up a little photo tutorial for you in the next few days, ok? 

word of warning, even though it is tissue paper, it still isn't all that flexible. i had been thinking of using it more for things like basket weaving or woven table mats.

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Me too, me too, please!

Me too, me too, please!

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lol, i was planning to post

lol, i was planning to post it on my blog and then post the link here... that way i'm not being "too bad" about posting off topic and taking away from our precious weaving time...

(*snort* right! not gonna take up much of our time at all! riiiiight! lol) 

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Spoken like a true spinner,

Spoken like a true spinner, hehe! But a paper project could make a different future WAL, so is it really off topic? I suspect nearly all of us in this group spin regularly.

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